I Hate Sports

I tried to leave work at 6:15pm today. 25 minutes later I managed to get back from a few blocks away and get back to work. The traffic was so bad I could not face the prospect of the commute across the bridge.

Apparently there’s some kind of football game or something and everyone had to go. In their cars. Separately.

I truly hate sporting events.

I am really looking forward to returning this car to my folks and getting back on public transit. If I had the parking permit for my neighborhood, I’d just leave it at home during the day, but I don’t so I drive. Under the best circumstances driving a car takes 15 or 20 minutes less, which seems like a big deal in a 55 minute commute, but if those 55 minutes are generally calm and involving reading or playing games on my PDA and the ones in the car are incredibly stressful and irritating, which would you prefer?

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206 thoughts on “I Hate Sports”

  1. Joe, are you and I the only ones left posting on this forum?? I notice not a whole lot of posts get on here….i guess a lot of people love sports. WHat a bummer.

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  2. Actually, Gary, if you read my post at the top of the page and the comment from me somewhere in the mass of all this, you’ll find this isn’t really a forum per se, it’s an offhand post on my blog where I was complaining about traffic on the San Francisco Bay Bridge.
    Um, but I seem to have tapped a nerve and provided a venue for folks, so I’m sure someone else will wander in from a search engine again any time now…
    πŸ™‚
    Dinah

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  3. I used the term forum for lack of a better term. I just stumbled across this, and have been enjoying venting a little about my dislike for sports and the mentality that goes with it.
    Cant talk to anyone round’ these parts bout’ it .. thats fer sure.. πŸ™‚

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  4. Dinah your complaining about a bridge and traffic, but yet you title it I HATE SPORTS! Strange way to title it if your fine with the way sports are handled and the bridge and traffic is your real problem. Maybe you should change your title to, I LOVE SPORTS, JUST HATE THE TRAFFIC! And as for my posts it seems everyone thinks I hate sports. Read my posts more carefully. I like sports and I play as many different ones as I can. I am saying that it is out of control as far as what the team owners and media are doing in there tactics in brain washing the people on sports. Like I said before average (most of society) people can be brain washed very easy! Start watching the sports segments and I mean anything from news to a sports show very closely! You will start to see between the lines. This is all about a multi billion dollar business. If you owned it you would do everything in your power to keep the people hooked to. But like I originally said it has got out of hand and ridiculas. And again I dont hate sports. Someone sent me an email saying that. Again they are not reading my posts carefull.

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  5. Whoa big fella, I agree with you generally that sports culture is rather full of itself and far less optional – if optional at all for men – in the United States than it should be.
    I’m just bemused that an offhand gripe that was primarily traffic-related has turned into a three-and-a-half-year old haven for the similarly frustrated.
    The magic of blogging and search engines, eh? πŸ™‚

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  6. Dinah i totally understand what you were saying…. πŸ™‚
    That is pretty amazing… three and half years? Wow!…
    Post, blog, forum, idea, topic…. WHATEVER the web world calls this… Thanks for starting it!!

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  7. Hey great, people who arnt god-dammed sport-drones! For god sake I hate them, well first of all they are idolizing some grown adult who runs around in shorts kicking a ball who accepts the fact they get payed more than a doctor (Who saves people lives) or some other important occupation. Another thing is I cant understand the fact that they can actually live knowing they are endorcing a life of flunking school subjects and living a crappy life to children!
    Also maybe if they stopped this craze based on guys who get payed loads of money to use a skill everyone basically has maybe the country or the world would be a better place.

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  8. What is funny is how as a male you are automatically labeled gay for not being a mindless football drone, yet if you ask those same people if they saw Wimbledon or PGA tour, they’d look at you as though you were crazy.
    So let me get this “straight”. Somehow I’m gay for not wanting to watch a bunch of fatasses on a field in tight elastic uniforms run around, yet they are not?
    I should also add that the US is the only country where football is a big deal–in South America, Africa, Europe, and Asia soccer prevails. This tells us two things: 1. It is in fact these Americans, who are the odd ones, for not liking soccer, and 2. Given how America is the most obese country out of any industrialized nation, Americans like a sport which breeds their mentality–fat, lazy, and part of the herd.
    Go to any country BUT the US, and it is these football nuts who become the outcasts.

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  9. I totally hate sport too. I have to do games at school and it is absolutely terrible. All the jock strap retards just get all the best equipment and shout at everyone else. Why would I care what some cretin thinks of my sports skills; at least I won’t have to live on a caravan site when I’m older because I wasn’t good enough to be a profesional footballer
    (soccer) and too dumb to get a real job.

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  10. Wow,
    this must be the longest-running thread in the world. Brilliant! πŸ™‚
    I have always had a profound disgust for sheep mentality, so I’ve never practiced any sport or religion. Hell, I don’t even have a TV. I am however dumbstruck to hear that in the US,
    1)not conforming to these kind of absurd social “norms” can get you labelled as gay,
    2)that “gay” is still (21st century) considered an insult!
    While the above attitudes are not surprising when they come from under-aged and under-educated kids, it is truly sad that some people have to endure this kind of bullshit all their life. Here in Belgium, the worst I can ever expect is a good-natured joke about how weird I am. That’s it. People just accept me for who I am and don’t give me shit for what I choose not to be. For all its shortcomings, I love Europe for being the most open-minded, tolerant, and non-violent society on Earth. This must be the best place for alternative lifestyles. Gay marriage and soft drugs have been legal or tolerated for years, and no politician would ever dare say crap like “God bless…” And guess what. The world has not fallen apart. Come to Europe and be free.
    Toaster πŸ™‚

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  11. I’m wondering if there have been any scientific studies done on people who are uninterested in WATCHING sports, either in a stadium or on TV. Personally, I enjoy watching, say, football for about 5 minutes. Then I become bored and restless. And I’ll glance at the front page of the sports section in the local paper, but mostly so I know enough not to appear 100% ignorant to the rest of my tribe.
    Is a lack of interest in sports or watching sports a matter of nature or nurture? Are genes involved … or the environment you grew up in … or something in the brain that would show up on a functional MRI? If any of you know of studies that deal with this issue, I’d appreciate an email from you. My address is blau@rcn.com. Thanks!

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  12. Toaster,
    Europe is not free. Europe is the most tangled mass of socialist laws ever to grace God’s green earth! In Europe, you can’t just throw your trash in a container and haul it to the curb for pickup. You have to cut everything up into tiny packages to conserve space and recycle everything. And you can’t wash your car! The government thinks the run-off will pollute the groundwater so washing your car –except at government approved carwashes –is illegal! In Europe, the sales tax ranges from 28 – 35%! You call that free? Everything is Europe costs at least twice what it costs in the US. Gas has always costs over $4 a gallon (liters). I shudder to think how much it is now. In Europe, there is no free parking. Even in the hotels WHERE YOU ARE STAYING you have to pay to park your car! In Europe, the stores and markets are not open on Sunday because of centuries-old tradition. You call that modern and progressive? In Europe, even in your own apartment you have to tiptoe around so as to not disturb your neighbors. If you so much as run a vacuum cleaner past 10PM, your neighbors will bang on your door to complain. And then call the cops. In Europe, if you own a TV, you must have a license to use it. Unmarked vans constantly patrol the suburbs to catch the occasional scofflaw who didn’t buy a license for his TV. Guns are mostly illegal. CB radios are illegal. If you have a single beer and get pulled over you’re considered DUI and face heavy penalties. That’s not what I call free.

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  13. Ray, I know it’s off topic, but still:
    Washing your car – correct, in most (not all) countries here you can’t wash it yourself. It’s called caring for the environment.
    Taxes – even higher than you think. I agree, a huge pain in the ass. Advantage: universal health care, mostly good schools, great mass transit. Still, way too socialist attitudes toward the role government plays, true.
    Prices in Europe: gas is expensive because European governments do not subsidize the prices. We pay the normal world market price.
    Free parking: many paying zones indeed, still a lot parking spaces are free. We just don’t depend on cars as much as the US – we have very good public transport. Good for your health & for the environment.
    Tiptoeing in your apartment: are you kidding? Sure, you’ll piss off a lot of people if you turn on 50 Cents at full volume at midnight. That’s a consequence of much more crowded living conditions. Basic politeness is a must.
    Licences for TVs – indeed, a handful of countries still have that bullshit. Where is it enforced? Absolutely nowhere. Secret TV licence patrols? Hahahaha, that’s a funny one! πŸ™‚
    Illegal guns – true everywhere, and very, very rightly so. Probably the hugest cultural difference between us and the US. Please keep your guns to yourselves, thank you.
    CB radios: illegal? Wtf??? My uncle and his dozens of CB cronies need to know this fast! πŸ™‚
    But: you can drink at 16, weed is tolerated, and gay couples, breastfeeding in public, and many other things – like hating sports! – , don’t raise any eyebrows here.
    In the end, yes Europe is different. I’ve lived in the US and though it is as a whole a great place, I’d still rather live here.
    And of course: screw sports! πŸ™‚

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  14. Don’t you people have anything better to complain about? Horrible presidency? Darfur? World Hunger? Something else besides the fact that people who enjoy sports TEND to go to games? I mean come on, look at what you have, be greatful and quit whining.

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  15. I complain about the president on a political site. I complain about sports on an I Hate Sports site. Comprende, Amigo?

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  16. MAN, I just HATE people who can’t spell grateful!
    πŸ˜‰
    Seriously, though, everyone, after you vent your frustration at sports-obsessed cultures, check out my link to Kiva.org in the sidebar. Your faith in humanity can be restored by connecting to a household business somewhere in the world and giving them a little $25 loan towards their (well-managed) business plans. I’ve already had my first loan paid back and I wish Melissa’s Tortillas in Honduras good fortune in future ventures.
    Complaining is fine & fun, but action leaves a better taste in your mouth.

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  17. I understand your point Matt, but i agree with the poster below you. This is not a political site. I too, do plenty of complaining on those sites.
    And dont underestimate just how important this topic is. The obsession with sports in this nation is a major problem because it is a major distraction to the very things you mention. The important things. Too many People are too busy watching worthless, meaningless sporting events to care about what is happening to their nation. I agree with Jack Kevorkian when he said that Americans are just like the Romans. All they care about are their sporting events and their beer. Go ahead, ask some of these sports fans what the latest news out of the White House is. They wont know. But they sure know who won the game. Get my point?

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  18. what is wrong with sport please tell me i dont see nothin wrong with sport and i live near a football staduim there is something wrong with us people that is all i have to say

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  19. Pleh. My whole family is not into sports. Unfortunately, my son is exposed to all these big, hairy, jocks at school. He tells me about how ugly and stupid they are. I never saw any of them in the newspapers outside the sports section! My son has to stand up to them. I am glad at least my kid has evaded the horrible exposure sports provide.

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  20. hmmm, this is an increasingly interesting topic, that is the seemingly overwhelming popularity of sports and the subsequent effects on society as a whole. I don’t really have anything personal against organized sports franchises but if given a choice would have to favor sports played for fun with no money exchanged, some healthy fun and exercise outdoors is a good thing, maybe a rare thing, indeed. Sports are as integral to this nation as it’s play or recess times from the earliest schoolyards originally intended as a pause from long days of work would seem to have evolved into worldwide games of all sorts with more teams than nations and tons of money flowing in all directions, but at what cost? For me as a college dropout I can say that my interest in science and nature was never heralded in conversation with very many and noting the geek status combined with the really really hard number crunching math work and really really low pay for a physicist compared to something like say an investment broker, well I gave up on the degree, partially at least because I was unsure about the long term employment in my field of study and partially because of a death in my family. As a hobby I did maintain a large collection of books on various subjects ranging from neuroscience to electronic engineering and actually did educate myself to some degree further than my previous course studies had, though not to a doctorate level. I was very much interested in the prospect of bringing robotics closer to the home and education with products that might appeal to newer generations, it was a mistake to think this a viable enterprise, while I was worried about the advances major multilaterals like Sony and Honda were making in robotics, the chopper bike boom was just begining. I was employed by a company selling leather and I would decorate their apparel with “best” selling designs such as eagles, flags(rebel and us mostly), skulls and the like. At heart if anything I consider myself a surfer, although having owned many bikes, not a biker by lifestyle choice, but I did sell products. After the death of my mother I could not bear to paint another skull on anything and was frustrated by the narrow focus of the group I was marketing to, so I left and began painting murals of gardens or just simple faux finishes in much more affluent and well mannered homeowners. After a few years I noticed the big multis were not selling any robots, hmmm, go figure, with all the hatred to one brand of vehicle vs. the other, what is a robot to the uninitiated but an enemy or at the very least something of jest and ridicule for having any association at all with. I gave up on robotics for personal and educational markets, and I am saddened that applications such as war and fighting games have taken hold and do seem to hold promise at the moment, perhaps a reflection of our society and just general timing in the world. It is interesting that apparently a lot of enthusiasm towards all things tech occurs quite regularly in tokyo, competitions like solar car races and robot soccer seem to help the participants learn and further develop various technologies, but this is I think an isolated instance of a society that has many employed by chipmakers and electrical companies that can donated time, materials and workspace. Our American factories have been shutting down over the years from regulatory burdens and overseas alternatives, I mean China is really becoming the manufacturing capital of the world, another interesting topic all on it’s own. And meanwhile most just don’t seem to rationalize the long term effects we all are subject to as a result. To really exemplify this I make note of a painting I did of the statue of liberty with an american flag as a backround, i painted it with my airbrush because of 911.
    My trade name registration in the state of New Hampshire was dated September 11, 2003 and stamped with a gold embossed seal exactly one year after we were struck by terrorists. I did not ask for this date but it was just coincidence because I had filed at the end of the summer. I have had and still suffer from harassment, vandalism and critique by “Yankee Hating Red Sox Fans”. I am not a fan of either team or baseball for that matter, and cannot understand why a picture of a national monument with no reference to the yankees whatsoever is offensive to them. I love my country and keep my picture on the wall but maybe I should take it down, business is bad and I have to survive, I don’t know it just seems so third world to not have simple freedom of expression even of an American Liberty! Families are sending little kids with red sox apparel to walk past my shop and show me what’s up, like teaching hatred to kid’s, even so called pretend hatred that all to often has very foul tones, they are even deficating on the floor and in the sink of the employee restrooms in the building, funny thing is the police station is literally right across the street, and was rebuilt witha brand new facility after 911 happened, so the police got raises, a new building, etc. as part of the war on terrorism that started in New York yet this continues to go on right in front of them. How’s that for sports out of control?

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  21. hated watching sports from the get-go. didn’t mind playing too much unless the ‘winning’ side made a big deal about their superiority (even if i was on the winning side). dredded thanksgiving w/the family because i knew ‘the game’ would be on the one side and the drunks were on the other side, until at some point when the two would combine. searched for a good solid rational reason to hate sports and eventually came up with one.
    sports is competition, and in competition only one side comes out number one, at the expense of ‘inferior’ competetion. children raised in this sort of ‘culture’ are subject to adapting this behavior. with some children already being generally brutal to one another, this exposure to ‘sport culture’ reaps, for lack of a better word, ‘(modern-day)americans’. most of the world dislikes ‘pigheaded’, ‘self-righteous’ ‘americans’.
    i am a citizen of the usa, and i hesitate to call myself the ill-overused term american. i am not proud at any level, per se. i feel very fortunate to have been born in the usa and i am one who contributes to society (and nature) passively and with rationallity. if all the money and energy that is wasted on this industry were put to optimum, rational, peaceful use, just imagine the kind of world we might live in.
    being new, someone else may have already spoken of my point here. if i am not the first, please forgive the seeming plagiarism.

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  22. I’m interested…how many people got here by googling something along the line of ‘Hate Sports’ or ‘I hate sports’? Just wondering.
    Boy, do I loathe sports. Or rather, I loathe proffessional sports. Such an insane waste of time and money. Think of all the medicine and food we could buy with sportspersons hyper-inflated salaries, even if we cut them down to a reasonable level (I don’t think it’s insane to say that a sportsperson should not be able to earn more than, say, a consulting surgeon). And all that time and energy WASTED by so many people! Think how richer our culture would be…I’m all for being active and healthy, but that’s a far cry from the world of TV sports, as many before me seem to have said very well.

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  23. I googled “I hate sports”.
    I truly loathe when my husband cajoles me into going to a game with him. He says “you’ll like it, it’s fun!”. I end up counting the minutes in each half/quarter/whatever until it’s over. I seem to be unable to appreciate what all the excitement is about. I mean, who even remembers the winners from last year, or the year before… and this season’s wins and losses will recede into foggy oblivion, too, except in records on some bookshelf. Yes, the pros have great sporting talent, but to what end besides entertainment. I’ve tried to “get it” but I just don’t “get it” and I’d rather find something more fun to do with my time.
    I think I’ll have to tell my hubby that I have been just pretending to enjoy going to games with him and would he please just go with the guys.

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  24. Good to see that I am not alone in reaching the end of my tether being forced to listen to endless sport on the media.
    In our country everybody seems to be obsessed with sport. I found myself getting to work and coming home feeling angry until I realised that it was because the music, news and talk back on the car radio kept getting interrupted with the many, many sports reports being read out by people with very, very loud voices (women included) when I have absolutely no interest.
    These reports often drone on for up to 15 minutes at a time and are repeating word for useless (heard it all an hour ago – or less) word.
    Often there are just gossip about the “sports stars” taking drugs, being injured, changing teams, sleeping with someone else’s wife, mucking up in hotel rooms and on planes and texting or molesting women in some other country. Basically it’s about people who create their own news about themselves by behaving stupidly and on top of that I have to listen to endless scores for things I don’t understand.
    All of these things are self indulgent, self inflicted, pointless, their doing, under their control and are NOT, by any stretch of the imagination, news.
    So I have turned off the radio. Now for the tv.

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  25. I worked in a piano repair shop with several eccentrics. We all hate sports. I hate when the entertainment I look forward to has been preempted by Football, or some other meaningless activity. I was once a “contestant” on Love Connection. I have never seen the episode because it was preempted by a football game. I call it “turdball” because it is brown, and pinched at both ends. After a series of articles in the Los Angeles Times which exposed the unruly behaviour of the fans at Dodger Stadium, I started calling Baseball “trashball”, because that’s who shows up for the games. Back to my story. One day we got a call at the piano shop, and Larry (Head Eccentric) answered the phone. After listening for a minute or so, I heard him say “I hate sports”. Another minute went by, and he said “No, really, I hate sports”. I chimed in “tell them I hate sports, too.”, and he did. Apparently, it was a telephone solicitation to raise financial support for a local team. After another minute or so, Larry said “Children should be having sex, not playing sports”, and hung up. While I do not agree with with underage copulation, his response was HILARIOUS!!.
    Joe

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  26. I was just wondering if there are other folks out there besides myself, seems I’m not alone. While I don’t hate sports, I’ve never been great at them. And I always used to feel growing up that my relatives used to “test” my knowledge to see if I knew this team/that player. I hated that, and still do. Granted, being a black man in the US that can’t really play/have no interest in basketball, I’m somewhat of a loner. I never saw the point of a bunch of guys chasing a ball. It’s kind of repetitive, to me. Kind of like watching a dog chase a ball playing fetch. So obviously, I’m in the minority. Again, I don’t hate sports, but when I have no interest in them and people alway assume you follow this team or that, it gets old fast. I don’t watch ESPN, I’ve gone to watch the super bowl at friends/family houses and been almost put to sleep. I tend to space out after hearing so much sportstalk and stats, too. It’s kind of like a litmus test where if you don’t like sports, you’re one of the following: weird, gay, anti-social, etc. Yet we idolize these fools, even when they behave badly(pro athletes). Nobody worships the teachers, firemen, military, etc. who actually have to work for a living and do great things for others. Now if I could get paid millions to do my job or just something I enjoy, that would be something…Yeah, my relative can dunk/shoot/pass, but they don’t have nearly the education or job skills that I currently possess. This country tends to favor the dumb jock, and shun you if you don’t choose this path. Heh, I’m a firm believer that the first caveman who thought differently from the others was swiftly clubbed to death.

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  27. I am so relieved to hear that so many other people also dislike sports. I find it completely mindless that people are paid MILLIONS of dollars to run around and kick things, and PEOPLE ACTUALLY PAY FOR THIS!!!! Now, i understand that sports require strenght, and endurance, and such, but there are so many more important things in society like acedemics or relationships!!!

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  28. Jared, perhaps someone needs to break it to you that not taking the time to write correctly fails to bear up your argument that other people are lazy.
    Also, by the way, dislike of sports is not the equivalent of inactivity. Hiking, biking, and other things outside the realm of organized competitive sports are enjoyed by many of those who get sick of the constant disproportionate focus on sports in U.S. culture.

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  29. first of all I’m on an iPod touch. Typing sucks with this. What I find hysterical is the parents on here who are proud of the fact their son/daughter doesn’t play sports. I play competitive hockey, baseball, football, and wrestling. Sports r also a great way to meet new ppl and make friends. Sports are like nothing else, they drive u to be the best u can be. I am a proud jock I have a great social life. I have a girlfriend. I’m a straight b student. So don’t be saying that sports steals away from that. I guess sports in a way have saved my life. I’d probably be on alcohol at the age of 13 without sports.

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  30. I’m not saying sports aren’t good for some people, I’m just saying they are disproportionately dominant in U.S. society and it’s far less socially acceptable to not be interested in sports than, say, ballet (which also, by the way, takes pure athleticism combined with hard work).
    Of course, that isn’t what I was originally saying if you read the post which attracted all these comments. What I was saying was “boy do I hate commuting home across the Bay Bridge when all these people are riding separately in their cars to the ballgame instead of taking public transit together”.

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  31. One of the commentaries I read a long time ago–maybe 20 or 30 years, give or take, whatever, had to do with smokescreens and creating diversions. It’s really hard to fathom that so many ordinary people respond to this constant bombardment by the sports media as if it were the world’s salvation, whereby becoming a soccer mom becomes the epitome of accomplishment and social grace, or self actualization. And on the contrary with respect to males, totlally absorbing your life or free time with sports marathons becomes the big o.k. And, if you can’t chatter endlessly, ad nauseum about the “game,” you’re a born loser–and when you look behind this smokescreen, you see loathsome,despicable, quaisi-capitalist entrepreneurs selling tickets and making a fortune from the “would be Jocks” mentality, that appeals to so many males as a source of expressing their masculinity by being able to respond appropriately to “jock” situations, quickly eliminating the non jock personality as odd ball, or more particularly, someone who poses a threat to the greedy sports ass hole entrepreneurs. But ultimately, it becomes a social control mechinism that discourages free thought, and perpetrates brainlessness and senseless acceptance of daily exploitation by the system–the system being the very wealthy neoconservatives that control the national resources, the wealth of the nation, the government and so on. But, if you can spend your life dwelling on senseless competition, particularly your free time, you’re not a threat to those who use and exploit you. By becoming a team player, you learn how to keep the millionaires and billionaires rich and help them perpetrate their wealth, and it sounds like it’s to your benefit to be a great sports commentator moron–but it’s really not. The great hope is, as you may very well observe from these blogs, everyone is not that naive, and that scares the control freaks, the bush hawks, the warmongers,the anti-environmentalists, the oil company entrepreneurs, the elitists. These smokescreen perpetrators are winning the political wars right now: every time you watch a football game or buy a ticket to a professional sporting event, you’re acutally supporting and upholding violence and self destruction… Try winning that argument. Have you ever argued with a brainwashed person? Have you ever argued with a neo-conservative ass hole like Rush Limbaugh? Think of all the money and resources that are wasted on sports stadiums and jock salaries that could have been redirected toward the poor, the jobless, the homeless, and the suffering that you never hear about nation wide. Think of all the money and resources wasted on prosecuting marijuana tokers while the alcoholics run you down on the freeways and commit numerous atrocities. What would happen if we projected the image of a hero toward academic achievement, art, science, creativity, philosophy, unbiased journalism. I’m agreeing with the posts above. Don’t worry if you’re not capable of babbling about sports junkies. I’m not either, never have been, never will be. Look behind the phony smoke screens sports analogies and triumphs of the sports drones. There are lots I’d like to talk about, but I’ll stop for now. And I want be watching any football or basketball anytime soon, or any sitcoms like ” cheers” either that projects that coach image. For those of you who feel alone in the world, you don’t have to feel that way. Oscar Bush, the right kind of Bush.

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  32. i hate it too it sucks just because i hate team sports, endurance and ball sports and the only thing i actually like is gym and martial arts (which the school doesn’t provide ESPECIALLY gymnastics as im meant to be a “man”) doesnt mean im a “poof” and thats why i always skip sports lessons as the teachers are too thick to even register still some of my “friends” grassed on me and i was forced to be humilated by doing cross country while everyone laughed while they did softball, and whats so good about watching someone kick a ball about god get a life do something USEFUL!

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  33. I’d just like to point out that being a sports fan does not equate to being a mindless drone as so many of you have asserted. I am a college graduate with degrees in both english and economics. I have a J.D. and am a licensed attorney. I am an active musician and have been since I was in middle school. I enjoy literature, film, and the performing arts. I follow politics closely. I am also a huge sports fan.
    I have never attempted to shove sports down anyone’s throat, and I tend not to associate with the proverbial “frat-boy-sports-bar macho man” type. I get that those people are annoying and can be overbearing in their attitudes. But so can plenty of so-called intellectuals who love to bellow about how their version of the literary canon is vastly superior to yours or anyone else’s. Such a person may not call you “gay” (although I haven’t heard a sports fan call a non-sports fan “gay” since perhaps high school…) but they will attack your intellect and your worth as a thinking person.
    I compare the experience of watching “your” team to the emotive experience that one is meant to derive from theater in the classical sense. For example: your team begins the game strong, taking an early lead. Slowly but surely, the lead slips away. Not giving in, however, your team digs in and fights back. The score becomes close, perhaps tied, perhaps veering back and forth from moment to moment – the outcome is wholly uncertain. As time expires, your team emerges victorious (bonus if they win on some kind of insanely unlikely play)! This experience, for a fan who loves a particular team, emulates the Aristotalean description of catharsis quite perfectly. Granted, one has to be emotionally invested in the team in order to have such an experience, but I’ve found that often the simple experience of watching such a game with people who honestly care can turn the tide for even the apathetic viewer; if they allow themselves to, that viewer may be swept up in the event and derive just as much pleasure as the avid fan.
    Not every game is like this – some games are just not that exciting. Hence the reason that people follow entire seasons…some may end in tragedy, some in triumph, but allowing yourself to become emotionally involved with something beyond your control for those brief periods of time is cleansing and satisfying in much the same way that a good film, play, symphony, or book may be. To love sports to the exclusion of all other things is, of course, silly, but the same can be said about loving almost anything to the exclusion of all other things.

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  34. A gay friend of mine was just praising the Olympics today. I don’t think he’s particularly sports-minded.
    (By the way, I rather think sports@are.gay is NOT a valid email address, but I bet if I did control a .gay top-level domain I could make boatloads of money).

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  35. i was out hiking at diannas bath in north conway, happendly tanned oriental ou hiking. when leaving the parking lot i noticed a new hampshire license plate hikrgrl. does anyone know how i can get in touch with this persom

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  36. I have three suggestions:
    1) Use your browser’s “Find in page” function;
    2) Don’t be the creepy, usually white, guy who stalks Asian women (who I’m guessing don’t like to be referred to as an “oriental” instead of as a person);
    3) Spell check.

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  37. Dinah,
    Thank you, profusely, for posting this, and keeping up with it over the years. It’s too bad you have to deal with the occasional bonehead like “littledaddy”.
    On Little League – weren’t those the days! They imposed the pressure of it on 2nd graders, mostly eight-year-olds, before they were even old enough to find their way around a baseball diamond without help! If you didn’t play, you were nobody (or gay, or even worse, during the Cold War, a Communist), even though you were much too young to decide who you are anyway. Today, the pressure probably starts in kindergarten! Sadly, I gave in to the peer pressure, and played not just one, but two seasons where I was rejected and ridiculed by my peers, all because of society’s insane obsession with diverting the awareness of all in the direction of sports and away from what is really going on in Washington, among other things that really matter! Well, to those fuckers who harassed me for failing, you can’t say I didn’t try, not that the bullshit which you pursue would have been worth it either way. Ball-watching morons can call me a bitter crybaby, if it makes them feel better for doing so, but the real reason why I oppose the sports-obsessed society is this – while you obsess and cry over the Yankees or the Red Sox failing to make it to the playoffs or clinch another playoff series, the fuckers who they didn’t have their eye on have found a way to give all of our money away to failed banks and insurance companies!
    Oh, I do understand the allure of sports – when I was in a strange town, and single, I went to hockey and baseball games with the local singles club. I got over my childhood scars just enough that I learned to understand the invigorating fun of watching a live game at an arena, or at a ball park on a sunny day. There’s a certain feeling of comraderie with all the fans who are there (much akin to a religious revival event), it gives you something to talk about at the office the next day. Of course, there are multiple sports overlapping, and all of your co-workers and those in your social groups who you may need to connect with are keeping up with most of those sports, so that you must choose between the pursuits which are best for you as an individual (music, art, work skills where even you could excel at) or spend all of your free time following more sports, like all of the other mindless drones.
    People invest so much time and money in sports because they are sheep following the herd, and who wants to be like the misfit who can’t talk about it – it’s the diversionary topic of choice for filling (and killing) time! It ‘s the most popular conversation starter, where other subjects are much too specialized, and then much too touchy to discuss with those you don’t know well. It’s social junk food, and it’s led to a disease which has been destroying society from the inside of the office. If the American population of 1776 had the diversion of a sports obsession on quarter par with ours, the American Revolution against the ruling party which completely ignored that people’s true interests would never have happened. Politics aside, there are too many people who waste away their lives keeping up with the other sheep, rather than pursue the skills which would make themselves more productive in society – and this is why the distraction of sports, and the jersey-buying ball-watchers who follow them should be addressed as the social menace which they are. Round them up, and ship them off to the slaughterhouses of Soylent Green!

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  38. Oops, forgot to check the extremely long list of comments for others who posted as “Dave” – the last comment was posted under “Dave” by me, but there was an earlier Dave who is not me – so I’ll go by “Dave G” from now on!

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  39. Oops, forgot to check the extremely long list of comments for others who posted as “Dave” – the last comment was posted under “Dave” by me, but there was an earlier Dave who is not me – so I’ll go by “Dave G” from now on!

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  40. OK, honestly, THIS COUNTRY IS INFECTED WITH THE FREAKIN PLAUGE OF SPORTS!!!!. my brother plays, and i havent gone to one of his games. (one baseball, but on accident) I want to just ruin a game one time, to see their reactions.. what do you think would happen?

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  41. I’ve just found this old discussion on sports because I have a serious problem – my husband LOVES watching sport (rugby and cricket – we’re South African) and all our friends do as well (women and men!). However I just can’t stand going to games or watching them on TV. I’m a marathon runner and like keeping fit but prefer DOING not watching. I feel like an unsociable outcast!

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  42. I absolutely hate sports and the people involved. These people are insecure sheep who cannot think for themselves and just join the herd. I cannot stand the fact that ‘players’ are paid millions to kick a ball when people and animals are neglected and starving in this world. It makes you ashamed to be a human being.

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  43. “These people are insecure sheep who cannot think for themselves and just join the herd.”
    Really? All of them? They can’t simply enjoy watching or playing sports?
    “I cannot stand the fact that ‘players’ are paid millions to kick a ball when people and animals are neglected and starving in this world.”
    My god. You are too stupid to breathe.

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  44. Joe Reskin – In response to your response, it is because those of us who dislike sports, or are not interested, or feel neutral about it, are treated badly FIRST, usually. That is what gives us the impression that there is a majority of sports fans who are not very intelligent because they hurl illogical judgments like, “You’re un-American”,or they will not include you in their group to do other things, or you will not get promoted. There is a tremendous bias against people who don’t like sports. That in itself is juvenile, and represents an inferior, close-minded thinking process.
    I think you are probably aware of this anyway and are just being obtuse. It is isolating, as you can tell by comments like (and, I am paraphrasing), [I didn’t know there were people who hated sports like me; never met one other person ever].
    The majority of people DO like sports and, if they didn’t project their dislike for others in the minority in this country who don’t, there wouldn’t be bad feelings about it.
    I don’t particularly like the American culture for many reasons, this being one of them. I would rather live somewhere I fit in with my interests and where those interests and talents are valued and more accepted. I just happened to make the mistake of marrying someone here and having a child here who won’t leave. Kind of stuck.
    I have no interest in sports, and I would like to be respected, socially included, promoted, considered a valuable friend, partner, lover, spouse, neighbor…you get the picture. But, that is not in the American culture’s nature; it’s not its’ core fabric. America is all about winning, even when you’re really losing (as Rosie Perez’s character would say), and even when you are missing out on other things. Rugged individualism to the extreme.
    For those of us who find it offensive to be snubbed by the majority over what seems to us a silly reason…well, it leads us to examine it and point out the contradictions in their logic because it is hurtful and inconsiderate to treat us that way!
    It doesn’t matter anyway. Cultures do not change; they are always from whence they came. We just don’t fit the American culture determined by the majority.

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  45. Hi Jinx – I am good at sports. I liked playing them for fun and in gym class growing up. Sports just don’t hold enough of an intellectual draw for me as an adult. Additionally, I don’t feel comfortable with the culture of competition we have here in the workplace and beyond. There is a general lack of ethics and morality, a serious lack. It shows its’ ugliness especially in sports.
    I was raised to believe if you wish to be good at something, you compete against yourself. You may observe skills others have that you may wish to acquire but, you take responsibility for how much work, time, money it would take to acquire those skills, and make a decision as to whether or not you are going to invest the time and energy to do it. Once that decision is made, you don’t try sabotage your neighbor so that you can look better, and they look worse. You take responsibility solely for yourself and your accomplishments. If you have what it takes and it is what you want, great!
    I am just not a competitive person in the way that this culture requires. It takes the fun out of the activity for me. Besides, as I said, sports are boring unless it is for fun, and everyone is laughing and participating together like going skiing together, or swimming off the boat, or playing an impromptu game of whatever (and I never play by the rules until everyone is in a heap on the ground laughing their heads off).
    People are more important.

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